Sure. That's a good question.
On the quality of science, there are excellent scientists at DFO, no question. Are their priorities in the right place? We work closely with DFO all the time from a science policy management point of view. Many DFO scientists know what to do. I said this is old news about ecosystem-based management. DFO scientists have been at the forefront internationally in developing the tools and the models of how to move forward. The problem is implementation. If there was a focus for scientists--but it doesn't rely on just scientists and it doesn't just rely even on DFO--it's certainly DFO decisions, managers, and taking those approaches and making them happen.
We don't need more science to make more things happen, in other words. The science isn't the limiting factor.