Well, I can tell you that if you look at the very first picture I provided, which is the picture of the gravel truck and the excavator, we were on site there. These were my pictures, or people who were with me took them. On the day that we were there, there were two enforcement officers there from the Chilliwack local office, and I was very fortunate because there were also a number of other people there.
We had a camcorder, and we did six hours of taping with a number of different enforcement people and the DFO personnel who were there. When these two fisheries officers came, I asked them about what was going on there, and the fact that this was going to cause some de-watering downriver. And they shrugged their shoulders and said yes, but they were at the lower end of things, and things were being approved higher up, so they weren't about to do anything.
In order to verify my point, the next day I went there and I got some formalin and I went to the site immediately below this gravel bar, and I dug two redds. And out of those redds, I collected a number of alevins and I put them in formalin and I took them immediately, with a witness, to the local DFO office and suggested that charges be laid or that this work be stopped. I was told by local enforcement that I ought to notify the regional director general, Paul Sprout, about it, and they didn't think there was a lot they could do.
So that's where it went, and then it really got full-blown, and we went into full-time mode of going there every day. I was there every day for a number of weeks watching the river go up and down, mostly down. When the culverts went in it even went down further instead of up, and Marvin's group was very much involved and we helped them all do this analysis and discover that there were lots of redds.
The other thing we need to point out is we're talking here about this one issue, but there were two other causeways just like this put in a month before, upriver and also downriver, which also had an impact.