I'm not sure about that. I do know that they got a ceremonial permit to fish from May 9 to May 29, which was 20 days. That's when they got permission through this pilot project. Instead of having to apply constantly for ceremonial permits—and what that means is that if there's some kind of ceremony such as a wedding, a funeral, the first of the season fish, or whatever--they're given a permit to go and catch x number of fish for their ceremony. There are all kinds of reasons. So DFO decided, since the Cheam Band was asking for so many of these permits on an ongoing basis, to do a pilot project instead and to just give them a blanket opening from May 9 to May 29. They could fish 24 hours a day, seven days a week, with whatever type of gear they wanted to fish with, with the provision that they let DFO know what they were going to do 24 hours in advance.
Our concern is that they're fishing all the time. And DFO enforcement staff really doesn't know whether they have a permit issued exactly then either, because they can, on a whim, all of a sudden say that they are going fishing. If they forget to ask for the permit, they just say, “Oh, well, we forgot to ask. It started 12 hours ago.” So there really is no enforcement in the sense that enforcement doesn't know themselves when they're legally fishing or illegally fishing.