It's been a slippery slope. In every year since this co-management began, there has been more and more squeezed out of the fisheries. When somebody comes and tells you that they're basically the judge, jury, and executioner—they're the ones who issue your licence, put the restrictions on your licence, and monitor you to see if you're actually in compliance with the regulations—and they say, “Ron, I think you guys should give us another 20% towards science. What do you think?”, what do you think is the likely answer?
We're at the point now that last year, on a $30 million fishery, my industry paid $2.35 million in so-called voluntary payments to cover what I believe is more appropriately paid by the Crown through an appropriation by Parliament.