This is what I am telling you, Mr. Chairman.
Let me repeat, a Senate bill is just like a private member's bill. It has to go through all the stages up to the third reading, but the Speaker will have to tell the House that it cannot go to third reading because it involves expenditure. In each and every case and in every department, if public funds are involved, whether or not they are in the budget, the bill is turned down.
For instance, employment insurance bills never get through, because they involve government expenditure. Precedents have been established with previous bills.