Okay. Thank you for that.
Another issue that was brought up already was on COSEWIC. There are a number of species that are listed now under COSEWIC and there are a number of those species that could be listed under SARA. I've got two points to my question.
First, I would hope that before any species is listed, there is additional science done, that the science is repeated, and that you look to the fishery itself, to the fishermen themselves, to see if that species is actually out there or not. Where I'm headed with that is on cusk. There is some discussion that cusk could be listed under SARA.
When you speak to the fishermen themselves, they will tell you that there is a fair amount of cusk on the east coast in areas that cusk tend to inhabit.
The trawl survey that was done--the dragger survey--didn't find any cusk because cusk crawl into holes on the bottom; they get under rocks and they tend to inhabit areas that any dragger fisherman wouldn't put a drag in, because it's too rocky and too rough.
However, the longline fishermen are catching cusk, and the lobster fishermen in certain areas get some cusk in their lobster traps. So if this species were to be listed under SARA, you would shut down a longline fishery, which is certainly a most non-invasive fishery, and you would shut down a trap fishery, which is a non-destructive fishery, in all possibility on science that was done.... And someone has to ask the question: was it done deliberately so they wouldn't find cusk? Why did you use gear that traditionally never catches cusk?