Speaking of taking the pen, we've heard testimony from other witnesses about the impact of the rapporteur, the person who holds the pen. From your 23 years of experience dealing with international fisheries policy and management, do you find it strange that the European Union was actually the rapporteur, the holder of the pen, during the drafting of this particular treaty?
Canada is the depository of NAFO documents. The headquarters of NAFO is in Canada, in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia. We actually provide the lion's share of funding for NAFO. Why did the European Union end up with the pen to draft these? And what's the consequence of holding the pen?