This leads me to my next question. You brought up Mr. Chapman, Mr. McGuinness, and Mr. McCurdy. Certainly, there is no question that they share frustrations with the current NAFO agreement. There is absolutely no question. They are on the record on that. Mr. Chapman has been involved since 1977, according to the testimony he gave us, and in the early 1980s for NAFO as well. What I find kind of intriguing is that these people are representing the fishery, and they wouldn't have a vested interest other than wanting to continue to fish, as you guys have said. I would think they would want to continue to fish and they would want to ensure the long-term stocks so that they could continue to fish.
Mr. Vardy, when you talk about the whole sovereignty issue, why would they be so concerned about that intrusion into their territory? They seemed to support this agreement.