I work, I believe, quite closely with them. My background is in invertebrate science, so earlier in my career I was doing more fisheries management and fisheries research work, and I worked very closely with the scientists in the gulf region on snow crab and lobster, as well as in the Scotia-Fundy region. I participated, as I mentioned, in CAFSAC and I participate now in the RAP sessions.
I also work very closely with fisheries managers. In my role now as associate deputy minister, I still work with the rank and file, and I really appreciate doing it. And I work closely with intergovernmental affairs and the folks at DFO, with the regional directors, and the regional directors general, and with those throughout the ranks. So I do still work very closely with DFO, and for the most part it's positive.