Fisheries Committee on June 21st, 2011

[Lawrence MacAulay, Liberal, Cardigan, PE]

I guess you would call it a subamendment.

[The Chair, Conservative, Rodney Weston]

Okay.

Do you want to propose your subamendment, Mr. MacAulay?

[Lawrence MacAulay, Liberal, Cardigan, PE]

I agree with the first round being seven, seven, seven and seven, and then NDP, Conservative, NDP, Conservative, Liberal, NDP, and Conservative.

[The Chair, Conservative, Rodney Weston]

That's for the next round.

[Lawrence MacAulay, Liberal, Cardigan, PE]

Yes.

[The Chair, Conservative, Rodney Weston]

Okay. You're suggesting that the first round be seven, seven, seven, seven--four sevens.

[Lawrence MacAulay, Liberal, Cardigan, PE]

And then it would be NDP, Conservative, NDP, Conservative, and then the Liberals.

[The Chair, Conservative, Rodney Weston]

Okay. Your only change is to the order; it's not to the time limit.

[Lawrence MacAulay, Liberal, Cardigan, PE]

No, it's not to the time.

[The Chair, Conservative, Rodney Weston]

So it would be a seven-minute round for the first, and the order would be NDP, Conservative, Liberal, Conservative.

[Lawrence MacAulay, Liberal, Cardigan, PE]

Yes, because if we lengthen the time for anything else, we'll be cutting others off. I want to be fair.

[The Chair, Conservative, Rodney Weston]

Mr. MacAulay, the subamendment is not in order, because you're trying to change the order of the amendment. Is that what you're proposing? It's not the amendment. The amendment is to have the times at ten, ten, and seven. Is that correct?

[Lawrence MacAulay, Liberal, Cardigan, PE]

That's right.

[The Chair, Conservative, Rodney Weston]

So your subamendment should be after the amendment is dealt with.

[Lawrence MacAulay, Liberal, Cardigan, PE]

It should be after the amendment is dealt with.

[The Chair, Conservative, Rodney Weston]

It's after the amendment is dealt with. Is that correct? It's after the main motion.

Mr. Allen.

[Mike Allen, Conservative, Tobique—Mactaquac, NB]

Just for clarification, when Fin asked the question, he was asking how this would play out just for clarity in terms of the times. That was not put on the table on the order. We agreed to split these two. The order is going to be the next motion, and then we can discuss that piece. It's just a matter of us talking about times. The first round is sevens, with subsequent fives. Fin's motion is for two tens, a seven, and subsequent fives.

[The Chair, Conservative, Rodney Weston]

You're correct, Mr. Allen. Thank you.

Mr. Kamp.

[Randy Kamp, Conservative, Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge—Mission, BC]

The motion before us addresses just two questions: how many minutes should each organization have--and I think we have consensus on that at approximately 10 minutes per organization--and then how long should the first round of questioning be? We're proposing seven minutes. Fin has another suggestion.

I think we should dispose of this, and then we can get into the more interesting question of the speaking order.

[The Chair, Conservative, Rodney Weston]

Thank you, Mr. Kamp.

So the amendment we have before us today is from Mr. Donnelly, who is proposing ten, ten, and seven on the first round, and on the second and subsequent rounds he's proposing six, six, and four. That's for each respective party--the NDP, Conservative, Liberal. Is that correct? That's correct.

Is there any further discussion on the amendment?

Mr. Weston.

[John Weston, Conservative, West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC]

I'm sorry, but can I get you to repeat the original proposal so I know what it is we would be changing from?

[The Chair, Conservative, Rodney Weston]

The original proposal by Mr. Allen was that the first round would be seven minutes per questioner and the second and subsequent rounds would be five minutes per questioner.

[John Weston, Conservative, West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC]

Thank you.

[The Chair, Conservative, Rodney Weston]

Mr. Donnelly.

[Fin Donnelly, NDP, New Westminster—Coquitlam, BC]

I know we haven't discussed the order, but if we were to go with an order that Mike provided for clarification, the timing of the two, theoretically again, sort of cumulatively would be, under Mike's proposal, in the first round 14 minutes for Conservative, seven for NDP, and seven for Liberal.

In the second round it would be 20 minutes Conservative, 15 minutes NDP, and five minutes Liberal.

Under this amendment, so under my proposal, in the first round Conservatives would get 20 minutes, the NDP would get 10 minutes, and the Liberals would get seven minutes.

Then in the second round, Conservatives would get 24 minutes, the NDP would get 18 minutes, and Liberals would get four minutes.