Evidence of meeting #8 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was going.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Kristen Courtney  Committee Researcher

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Allen Conservative Tobique—Mactaquac, NB

Yes, it should say “undertake a study in aquaculture in the Pacific region focused on closed containment”.

Let the Library of Parliament analyst prepare a work plan for this study for the next eight weeks.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

Mr. Cleary.

October 18th, 2011 / 3:45 p.m.

NDP

Ryan Cleary NDP St. John's South—Mount Pearl, NL

My question is about travel. I see that travel took place in November 2010, but according to page 4, the first commercial-scale ocean-based closed containment units began at Campbell River only in January 2011.

If this study is on closed containment units and the first one opened in January 2011 and your travel ended in November, shouldn't this study include travel to see this first closed containment unit?

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

It can be adopted in the work plan if you want to add that for travel.

3:45 p.m.

NDP

Ryan Cleary NDP St. John's South—Mount Pearl, NL

Yes, I'd like to. If we're talking about it, I'd like to see it.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

Now, though, we're talking about the motion for what we're going to work on.

3:45 p.m.

NDP

Ryan Cleary NDP St. John's South—Mount Pearl, NL

Yes, sorry.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

Mr. MacAulay.

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

In the introductory motion, if I remember correctly, we were going to refer briefly to the hearings that you had when you travelled and to all the hearings we had previously. But we were not going to get in the way of the Cohen report. I think that's what we said here at the meeting last time.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

Yes, we did, and that would come in the work plan.

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

I think that's what we should do.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

Do you want that in the introductory motion?

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

That's what I thought we agreed to the last time, if we agreed to anything.

I don't think we want to do all this and not make note that anything was done before.

I suppose it wasn't on closed containment, really, when we started out on this. But the thing has changed. When we started out, it was more on sea lice and all this, and now we have the Cohen report coming out. It would be a pity if we contradicted it. I think that's the way we were talking, the last day we sat around here. We were going to refer, not heavily but somewhat, to what was done and then look into closed containment more. That's what we were going to do. That's what I would think the motion would need to say.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

What Mr. Allen is suggesting is that the motion would say:

That, the Committee undertake a study on aquaculture in the Pacific Region focused on closed containment, with evidence from the previous Parliament, pursuant to the motion agreed to on Thursday, June 23, 2011, and that the Library of Parliament analyst prepare a work plan for this study, for the next eight weeks.

Does that make sense, Mr. Allen? Does that sound like what you were saying?

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Allen Conservative Tobique—Mactaquac, NB

Yes.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Randy Kamp Conservative Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge—Mission, BC

Would it be including evidence, because it will only be part of the evidence?

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

What I said was, “with evidence from the previous Parliament”.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Randy Kamp Conservative Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge—Mission, BC

I think we'd better say “including evidence from the previous Parliament”. Otherwise it might sound as if that's the only evidence we're going to look at—

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

Okay. That's a good point.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Randy Kamp Conservative Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge—Mission, BC

—to write the report.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

Okay.

Mr. MacAulay.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

So that would cover what we did previously when we had all the hearings on sea lice. Is that what you're saying?

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

Basically, we're saying we're not going to forget about that evidence that we've already gathered. We're going to use it in this study.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE

But we're not going to make fools of ourselves either and start contradicting the Cohen report.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

Oh, no.