That's a good question.
For example, that's the position of the Fisheries Council of Canada. That's the position of the New Zealand industry, which also has a high seas fishery but agrees that there shouldn't be any subsidies. Also, a member of our coalition is Spain. In terms of the international coalition, I can't promote that as chairman of ICFA in my dealings with the UN or with the FAO. Certainly, as president of the Fisheries Council of Canada, I can advocate that type of position in dealing with the Canadian and the U.S. governments, because the U.S. government is on side, with the National Fisheries Institute.
As you say, within 16 countries there are a couple of countries that would not subscribe to what I just said.
