There is a meeting that everybody goes to. There are probably 30 people around the table. There's no way you can say that's consultation. We all have three minutes—less time than here—so if we're going to get ideas out and are going to co-manage our watersheds, we have to have more time at the table to talk about them together.
I definitely want to add—and it scares me right to death—that we're talking about managing fisheries right now, and closing a river to fishing is not managing the resource. All we have to do is look to the mighty Saint John River that's been closed for 25-plus years. It will probably never open again, and there isn't one more fish in it now than there was when they closed it. So for heaven's sake, don't contemplate closing our river and thinking that's going to bring the salmon back.