The studies that have been done on pound nets—and there's an experimental pound net in the Columbia River in Washington state right now that has been operating for a number of years. The mortality was less than 5% in the experiments where they tagged the fish. They have the ability to absolutely not handle fish they don't want, because they can look down in the net and see what species they are. They're not tagging them as part of an experiment. They can just let them go without touching them. There's absolutely no harm to the fish and we could have potentially several mortalities. I don't think you can get that with a fish wheel—
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