Well, I think we are improving. I'm optimistic that it will get better. That's because there's a common need or understanding that it's almost impossible to address this issue single-handedly by any organization or by any group. There's valuable expertise among so many different people within the public, within industry, within NGOs, within government, and within universities, that by drawing upon that, especially where there's a common interest such as conservation of Atlantic salmon, I think we'll achieve that goal.
I think DFO is actually starting to come around. I don't think there was ever a reluctance so much as they were not able to effectively do some of this because of the lack of resources. They were already too busy with so many things, whereas historically, there were more people around. I think it is going to be improving. I'm hoping that some of these new positions will help in that regard, so long as there's a welcoming spirit to collectively look at everyone as an equal partner rather than having someone dictating the rules.