Thank you. I may be splitting my time with Mr. Sopuck.
I'll get back to you, Ms. Venton.
You made reference to, and there has been reference, the authorization or the exemptions allowed by the minister and so on, and about how decisions in terms of harm must be based on science and not be strictly left up to ministerial decision. What would you have to say when social issues come into play, say, regarding flood mitigation or the seal cull? We've heard multiple times, not just in this study, about the impacts that seal populations are having on fish populations. Those decisions possibly have sometimes been made due to social influence rather than science. How would you react to those two specific instances of flood mitigation and seal populations?