Yes, I think the separation of the two under the fisheries research board, which did science to best support Canadian fisheries and was entirely governed by a board of senior fisheries and freshwater and oceanographic scientists, produced very good science. That was then handed off to the departments as a piece of science, and that was incorporated into the decisions.
That first organization had variable overhead. We probably had seven staff, overall, for a scientific staff of 100 people. That changed when we were taken into DFO to about 50% support people of various sorts, and it confounded the expenditure of money for doing the science efficiently.