My other question relates to the issue that moving to increase the area of marine protected areas in itself will not protect much. Somebody elaborated on the fact that the people benefiting from one marine protected area were those who were not licensed to fish there. They didn't have black boxes, so they couldn't be detected going in. This issue was raised by commercial fishers as well, who commented that increasing the size of marine protected areas without the ability to enforce them really does not accomplish a lot.
I believe it was you, Dr. Cox, who made the comment that protection could be more important in protecting a stock than the symbolism of appointing a marine protected area. Could you elaborate a bit? I agree with that point, and fishers have raised the concern that DFO no longer has the capacity to protect or enforce normal fisheries adequately, let alone an enhanced marine protected area.