Briefly, as I mentioned around natural resource management, the three things are funding, science and social support. I'm going to really focus in on the science piece because there is an internal conflict within DFO in terms of who is the decision-maker and who makes decisions.
Science's role is to tell us what's available, what's possible, and how to get to that place. After we calculate all of that, science's role is to tell us what can be harvested.
Currently, the approach is, let's figure out a way to harvest things. There is no focus, or very little focus, on restoring fish populations or conserving them. You're constantly going to have this structural issue where you talk about fishing a lot and you don't talk about fish very much. I'm sure you can trace that back to the east coast cod. You can trace it back to interior Fraser coho and to Thompson steelhead.