Okay. I'm glad to hear you're open to that.
By the way, let me say you have a really tough job. You have challenges all over the map right now with respect to the west coast fishery, the salmon fishery. I don't envy you your job. If we're asking you tough questions, it's because we care as much as you do about this and we want to make sure we get to the bottom of it.
In getting back to the 60,000 and 80,000 fish, you mentioned there were 140,000 that got past the slide one way or another. You said it might be higher, and you're going to get back to us with those numbers. Do we know how many of them survived?