Fisheries Committee on Oct. 14th, 2020

[The Chair, Liberal, Ken McDonald]

Well, it would probably require a motion and the consent of the clerk to then be able to do that. I would like to get to other motions first that people have indicated and put up their hands to bring forward.

We'll now consider that Mr. Battiste has given notice of motion.

Next on the list is Mr. Hardie.

[Ken Hardie, Liberal, Fleetwood—Port Kells, BC]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I would like to give notice of the following motion: “That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and given the decline in Pacific salmon stocks and the ongoing situation with Big Bar landslide, the committee undertake a study on the state of Pacific salmon and make recommendations on next steps to ensure for the long-term health of these stocks as well as the commercial, indigenous and recreational fisheries that depend on them; that the study consist of at least six meetings with two of those meetings focused on the Big Bar slide; that the committee call witnesses including senior department officials, first nations and relevant stakeholder groups to testify before the committee; that the committee report to the House; that the committee reintroduce all testimony and submissions on this subject from the first session of the 43rd Parliament to be included and used for considering and drafting a report; and that all previous committee meetings on this subject be considered as meetings as a part of this study as outlined in the notice of motion.”

[The Chair, Liberal, Ken McDonald]

Thank you for that, Mr. Hardie.

Before I go to Mr. Bragdon, I notice that our friend, Mr. Kelloway, has left us. He's bought in another backup for Mr. Cormier. Mr. Simms, the member for Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame is no stranger to this committee. When I first started this, he was the chair. He's off to a different committee now, but he takes great interest in the fishery since he represents such a fishing area in this province.

Welcome, Mr. Simms, it's nice to see you.

Mr. Bragdon.

[Richard Bragdon, Conservative, Tobique—Mactaquac, NB]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

In regard to Mr. Hardie's motion—I take it that's the motion we're considering at this point—this may be incorporated into it. It could be considered a friendly amendment. I just want to put this on the table for consideration.

[The Chair, Liberal, Ken McDonald]

Mr. Bragdon, we can't actually discuss the motion.

It's a notice of motion. It's not up for debate. It's not up for any discussion whatsoever because it hasn't been provided in both official languages.

[Richard Bragdon, Conservative, Tobique—Mactaquac, NB]

Okay.

I do have motions prepared in both official languages. We can submit those. They can be given to the clerk as we speak.

If it's okay to proceed with that, I'll begin with the first motion.

[The Chair, Liberal, Ken McDonald]

Indeed you are, sir.

Go ahead.

[Richard Bragdon, Conservative, Tobique—Mactaquac, NB]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Motion number one is “that the committee request that the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans and the Canadian Coast Guard appear for the committee for at least two hours to provide an update on the 2020-21 main estimates and the 2020-21 supplementary estimates; and that in the invitation to the minister, the chair impart the urgency of the ongoing situation and request that the minister appear before November 24, 2020.”

[The Clerk]

Mr. Chair, can you ask Mr. Bragdon if that was a notice of motion or if he intends to move it now? If so, could I get the text, so it can be distributed to all members in the two official languages?

[Richard Bragdon, Conservative, Tobique—Mactaquac, NB]

Absolutely.

Mr. Chair, through you, I believe the text should be sent to you right away, Madam Clerk.

I'll submit it as a motion for now.

[The Chair, Liberal, Ken McDonald]

All right.

Nancy, do I wait to receive that and make sure everybody got it first?

[The Clerk]

Yes, I'll send that as we speak.

[Richard Bragdon, Conservative, Tobique—Mactaquac, NB]

Mr. Chair, do we want to consider one motion at a time or do I submit the other motions?

[The Chair, Liberal, Ken McDonald]

It's much easier to do them one at a time.

[Richard Bragdon, Conservative, Tobique—Mactaquac, NB]

I agree.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

[The Clerk]

Mr. Chair, I just sent the text of the motion from Mr. Bragdon to all the P9s, and now I can send it also to the staff. It is in the two languages.

[The Chair, Liberal, Ken McDonald]

I believe Madam Gill nodded and acknowledged that she has received it.

[Marilène Gill, Bloc, Manicouagan, QC]

Yes, I received it.

[The Chair, Liberal, Ken McDonald]

Is there any debate on that motion?

Hearing none, I'll ask for a vote.

(Motion agreed to: yeas 11; nays 0)

[Terry Beech, Liberal, Burnaby North—Seymour, BC]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

It's just a point of clarification. Let's assume that there was an amendment raised for the previous motion. Given the new context of the translation and the written text, could you or the clerk advise how we would proceed in that situation?

[The Chair, Liberal, Ken McDonald]

Go ahead, Nancy.

[The Clerk]

I will ask Ms. Gill whether I'm correct, but my understanding is that her motion is in relation to all studies pursuant to Standing Order 108(2).

Concerning the opinion of Ms. Gill, I would want to make sure that she clarifies whether this is also relevant to any amendment, because any amendment can for sure always be suggested without any notice.

[The Chair, Liberal, Ken McDonald]

I don't think the motion included amendments. Nobody knows what motion is coming forward, so how could you have one provided in both official languages at the time the motion is read?

Madam Gill—you can correct me if I'm wrong—would we deal with the amendments to the original motion in our usual fashion?

I'm seeing a nod from Madam Gill, so I hope that answers your question, Mr. Beech.

[Marilène Gill, Bloc, Manicouagan, QC]

I suppose that we still need the final text before we can vote on it. This was stated in the motion that I moved.

Before we vote, we need the final text in the official languages. Of course, we can't always anticipate the amendments and the tabling of motions.

[The Chair, Liberal, Ken McDonald]

Thank you again.

We go back to you, Mr. Bragdon.

Did I give out the vote? It passed.