I'm sorry, but I didn't really hear that myself in other witnesses' testimony. I'm a firm believer that the collaboration has been fulsome and that it continues to grow. I think that continued and enhanced collaboration among the federal government, the province, first nations, scientists, academia, and ENGOs is critical, if we're going to see positive steps in the recovery of salmon.
I apologize, Mr. Mazier, but I did not hear that perspective today.