Evidence of meeting #27 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

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Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Tina Miller
Nancy Vohl  Committee Clerk
Michael Chalupovitsch  Committee Researcher

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Bobby Morrissey Liberal Egmont, PE

Okay. Thanks.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

In other words, we'll start Monday on the prawn study and then we'll move to the Pacific salmon for the three meetings, which will bring us up to May 12, and then, on the 26th, the Wednesday, we will do the second day of the prawn study.

Then I would probably suggest that if we want to get the draft report for salmon started on May 31, that brings us up to June. June 2 would be our next meeting. Are we going to do the corporate licences study, as per Mr. Battiste's motion? On that particular day, we'll start the corporate licences study, on June 2. I see Mr. Morrissey giving a thumbs-up for that. We have a lot of time to submit witnesses for that as we go forward.

That would leave us Monday, June 7, to do the draft report for Pacific salmon and that brings us up—feel free to interrupt at any time, please—to the 9th, which would be the second—the last—meeting dedicated to corporate licences, because I think that was left at two particular meetings.

Mr. Bragdon, I see that you have your hand up.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Richard Bragdon Conservative Tobique—Mactaquac, NB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I have a quick question in regard to the budget aspect as it relates to the Pacific salmon study. As one of the witnesses—I want to be sure adequate notice and time are given—I feel that it would be very much appropriate, as this is pertaining to the budget, that we request that the minister appear before this committee pertaining to that, to be able to answer questions and to speak to the committee regarding the budget announcement for Pacific salmon.

If I need to make that a formal request or a motion.... I just think it would be only appropriate to have the minister appear before the committee to speak to the budget.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

I think, Mr. Bragdon, that it would probably be more appropriate or, for the sake of a better word, that it would carry a little more weight, if you actually said that it was a motion to have the minister appear on the budget for Pacific salmon.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Richard Bragdon Conservative Tobique—Mactaquac, NB

If that's okay, Mr. Chair, I so move to request that the minister appear before the committee to speak to the budget as it relates to the Pacific salmon study.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Okay. Thank you, Mr. Bragdon. It's just to make it official.

We've heard the motion. Are there any interventions?

I see that Michael, the analyst, had his hand up first.

4:05 p.m.

Michael Chalupovitsch Committee Researcher

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I didn't want to pre-empt any other member, but I just wanted to raise this. If we get drafting instructions for Pacific salmon on May 31, that wouldn't give us enough time to have a report ready for June 7. We would need at least, at the very minimum, a week and a half for drafting and a week and a half for translation. I just wanted to flag that.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Okay. Thank you. That part we don't have to straighten out just yet, I don't think.

Mr. Arnold.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I would second the motion from Mr. Bragdon and actually further refine the motion to say that the minister appear for one two-hour meeting to discuss the budget and the measures it contains for Pacific salmon.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

I will consider that an amendment to the motion. I don't think there's any such thing as a motion being seconded at committee. Members just make the motion and we deal with it, but you can certainly amend it.

Mr. Battiste.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Jaime Battiste Liberal Sydney—Victoria, NS

It's my understanding that the minister will be coming in to discuss the supplementaries anyway. Does that not give us time to ask her those questions instead of asking her to come back twice? That takes away from our time to hear from witnesses and conclude studies.

I see the clerk's hand is up, so maybe I'm wrong on this.

4:10 p.m.

The Clerk

I'm sorry, Mr. Chair, the bells are ringing.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Did they just start?

4:10 p.m.

The Clerk

Yes.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Are they 30-minute bells?

4:10 p.m.

The Clerk

Yes.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Okay, could I get unanimous consent to carry on for 15 minutes? That would give everybody time to sign out and sign in.

I see that there are no objections.

Thank you, Mr. Battiste.

We're dealing with Mr. Arnold's amendment first.

Mr. Gord Johns, you have your hand up.

4:10 p.m.

NDP

Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

I think whether the minister is coming for budget supplementaries or not, we need to speak to her separately on salmon overall. I think we need her specifically on the salmon, because it's only two hours that we're asking for.

It's going to take two hours. The $647 million is a lot of money, and it's very critical to the west coast.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

I guess if the minister appears, it's up to the members what questions they ask while the minister is here—or any minister, for that matter.

Seeing no further intervention, can we vote on the amendment to Mr. Bragdon's motion, please?

April 28th, 2021 / 4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Terry Beech Liberal Burnaby North—Seymour, BC

Mr. Chair, I had my hand up on a point of order.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

I don't believe you can do a point of order on a vote, can you?

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Terry Beech Liberal Burnaby North—Seymour, BC

I had my hand up before the vote was called, but it wasn't acknowledged.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Okay. I'm sorry.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Terry Beech Liberal Burnaby North—Seymour, BC

I just want the main motion and the amendment to be reread, please.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Do you want the main motion to be reread, or the amendment, or both?