No, fishing is not our problem. I think DFO does a good job at managing fishing. Where I disagree with DFO is that I actually think there could be more fishing opportunities, particularly in the recreational sector. It's not a fishing issue; it's an issue of ocean survival.
I do think we can optimize the carrying capacity of the ocean. We need a little more science, or maybe a lot more science.
To me, that's what rebuilding is. Rebuilding isn't some historic abundance. I don't even think those numbers are possible. The ocean carrying capacity has changed, but with a proper understanding we can rebuild to the capacity of the coastal ocean. I think there are opportunities to do that, particularly for chinook salmon.