Evidence of meeting #6 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Naiomi Metallic  Chancellor's Chair in Aboriginal Law and Policy and Assistant Professor, Schulich School of Law, Dalhousie University, As an Individual
Thierry Rodon  Associate Professor and Canada Research Chair in sustainable northern development, Université Laval, As an Individual
William Craig Wicken  Professor, Department of History, York University, As an Individual
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Nancy Vohl

5:35 p.m.

The Clerk

Let's clarify. Mr. Johns mentioned two things, but amendments must be dealt with one at a time, so this subamendment is the subamendment to Ms. Gill's motion, and it is to modify the date of November 13 to November 20. This is the one subamendment you are voting on.

(Subamendment agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

The subamendment has passed.

Is there any further debate on the now amended amendment from Madame Gill?

5:35 p.m.

NDP

Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

Mr. Chair, on the amendment, I move that we remove the words “that the committee be suspended”.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Okay. We've heard—

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Blaine Calkins Conservative Red Deer—Lacombe, AB

Point of order, Mr. Chair.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Yes, Mr. Calkins.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Blaine Calkins Conservative Red Deer—Lacombe, AB

I don't believe that Mr. Johns' amendment is in order at this particular point in time, because we're simply dealing with the amendment from Madame Gill, which has been amended. I'm not trying to do your job for you, Chair, but I think Mr. Johns is a little premature in his motion. It would need to be applied to the entire motion, which would be dealt with after this amendment.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Yes.

Seeing no other hands, Nancy, do you want to record the vote on the amendment?

5:35 p.m.

The Clerk

Yes. At this time, you would be back to debate on the amendment from Ms. Gill.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

Terry Beech Liberal Burnaby North—Seymour, BC

Point of order, Mr. Chair.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Yes, Mr. Beech.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

Terry Beech Liberal Burnaby North—Seymour, BC

Could we just, for the clarification of everybody on the committee, have the entire amendment that we're voting on right now be read?

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Nancy, can you read exactly what we're voting on right now as the amendment to the original motion?

5:35 p.m.

The Clerk

Here is the text of the motion as amended:

That the committee request the Minister of Fisheries, Oceans and the Canadian Coast Guard to appear for no fewer than two hours as a witness for the committee’s current study titled “Implementation of Mi’Kmaq Treaty Fishing Rights to Support a Moderate Livelihood”; that the Minister appear no later than November 20, 2020; and That the committee suspend future meetings of its current study until the Minister appears, as requested, with the department officials requested.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Thank you, Nancy.

Seeing no hands—

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NDP

Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

Mr. Chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Yes, Mr. Johns.

5:35 p.m.

NDP

Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

I would like to move an amendment to that motion, if I can, that we strike out the second part of the motion, “that the committee suspend future meetings of its current study until the Minister appears, as requested, with the department officials requested.”

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Nancy, is that in order, to do another amendment now, or should we wait until we get to the voting on the main motion as amended?

5:35 p.m.

The Clerk

You have to vote on what I just read. Once this is adopted, then you will be able to move a different motion.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Blaine Calkins Conservative Red Deer—Lacombe, AB

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Yes, Mr. Calkins.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Blaine Calkins Conservative Red Deer—Lacombe, AB

Again, the only thing we're voting on now is the addition of the words in English “that the minister appear before November 20, 2020”. That's all we're voting on.

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB

That's correct. That's what the clerk said.

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

Blaine Calkins Conservative Red Deer—Lacombe, AB

That is the amendment that Madame Gill put forward, which was amended by Mr. Johns. The entirety of the motion is not up for debate, outside of that one clause. I would respectfully ask Mr. Johns again to wait until we vote on this amendment, and then he can move his amendment.