That may be the case. However, I was saying that this isn't what they're asking for. We've heard them say that they wanted certain types of fishing, and that commercial fishing doesn't necessarily equate to a “moderate livelihood”.
Lastly, if we don't want to define “moderate livelihood”, how do we know whether the treaties are good? How can we assess this livelihood if we don't have any indicators regarding the progress of all negotiations and agreements?