Evidence of meeting #1 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Tina Miller

11:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Cabot Street, I believe, was in the discussion.

Yes, when you're ready, Mr. Small.

11:40 a.m.

Conservative

Clifford Small Conservative Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and congratulations on being elected chair.

Mr. Chair, I move:

That the committee undertake a comprehensive study of pinnipeds that would examine the ecosystem impacts of pinniped overpopulation in the waters of Quebec, Eastern and Western Canada, international experience in pinniped stock management, the domestic and international market potential for various pinniped products, social acceptability, and the sociocultural importance of developing active management of predation for coastal and First Nations communities with access to the resource; That the committee invite witness appearances including Indigenous organizations, scientific experts, DFO officials and experts and officials from countries such as Scotland, Norway and Iceland that have conserved and rebuilt fish stocks by balancing pinniped populations; That the committee allot no fewer than eight two-hour meetings to receive said testimony; That the committee also accept written briefs from individuals or organizations who wish to submit input; and That the committee submit its findings with recommendations in a report to the House.

Thank you.

11:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Yes, Mr. Cormier.

11:40 a.m.

Liberal

Serge Cormier Liberal Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Mr. Chair, just for clarification, is this a notice of motion?

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

Clifford Small Conservative Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

Yes, this is a notice of motion.

11:45 a.m.

Liberal

Serge Cormier Liberal Acadie—Bathurst, NB

I ask because you said “I move”.

Okay, this is just notice.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

Clifford Small Conservative Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

I'm sorry. I'm just a rookie. I didn't know about two-line passing.

11:45 a.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

11:45 a.m.

Liberal

Serge Cormier Liberal Acadie—Bathurst, NB

No worries, and welcome to the committee, Mr. Small. Mr. McDonald will feel less lonely with you around the table.

11:45 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

It was my understanding, Mr. Cormier, that when everyone put their hand up to be recognized, it was to give a notice of motion. I heard it read as a motion as well, but I knew it was a notice of motion. That's why we continued.

11:45 a.m.

Liberal

Serge Cormier Liberal Acadie—Bathurst, NB

I'll let you do your job. Thank you.

11:45 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

I appreciate it. Thanks, Serge.

Now we have Madame Desbiens.

11:45 a.m.

Bloc

Caroline Desbiens Bloc Beauport—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île d’Orléans—Charlevoix, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate you on your appointment today.

I am an Isle‑aux‑Coudres girl from a family of sailors and captains who fished for cod, smelt, flounder and sturgeon in the St. Lawrence. So it's truly a pleasure for me to be with you.

I am new to the committee. We also have some motions to introduce to you. I will read the first motion to you now.

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Committee undertake a study on the labelling of seafood products and that it consider the impact of the consultations undertaken on that topic by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency; that the Committee invite the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans, the Minister of Health and experts to appear regarding this issue; that the Committee hold at least four meetings to do so; and that the Committee report its findings and recommendations to the House.

The second motion is as follows:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Committee undertake a study on the Small Craft Harbours program, particularly its findings regarding the divestiture of wharves; that the Committee invite the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans, experts, government officials and industry stakeholders to discuss this issue, and that the Committee hold at least four meetings to do so; and that the Committee report its findings and recommendations to the House.

Thank you.

11:45 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Thank you.

We've heard the notices of motions and we'll get to those when they come forward.

Do you have another one?

11:45 a.m.

Bloc

Caroline Desbiens Bloc Beauport—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île d’Orléans—Charlevoix, QC

Allow me to suggest the following: We could establish priorities based on what was said today in subcommittee, given the large number of notices of motion filed.

11:45 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

I'm sure that will be a discussion not just at any subcommittee, but at committee of the whole as well. In the past, we found that the subcommittee didn't work real well for FOPO. When we came back here and had recommendations from the subcommittee, they always got hashed out pretty heavily, so we just leaned on the committee as an entire group to deal with the actual motions when they come forward.

I would remind everybody, of course, that all of these motions have to be provided to the clerk and the members in both official languages when they do come forward as a motion. Please do that, and do it even with your notice of motion, so that they have them on record and everybody will have them.

Is there any other business?

We have Mr. Kelloway.

December 14th, 2021 / 11:45 a.m.

Liberal

Mike Kelloway Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

Thank you, Chair.

I want to congratulate you on being chair.

I have to say that since the Newfoundland members were acknowledging each other, I have to acknowledge my counterpart in Nova Scotia.

It's great to see everybody here.

This may be a two-line pass as well, but it's just in terms of a point of clarification. With respect to the notices of motions on studies, others can be made at a later date, correct? When we come back in January, if there's a study that a collection of us folks are working on, we can bring that forth in a fashion similar to what we're doing now.

11:45 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Yes. Any time we're doing committee business, a motion can be...actually, not just a notice of motion but a motion can be moved, debated and voted on at any time. We've seen that happen many times. We could set our schedule to do A, B and C and something will interrupt it. Somebody may move a motion to do something else and we may see the importance of it and get that done before we move any further on anything else that happens along the way.

11:45 a.m.

Liberal

Mike Kelloway Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

Thank you, Chair.

11:45 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

That's not a problem.

Hearing nothing else, it's my understanding that our time slots for committee will be Tuesdays and Thursdays from 11 till 1. We do have Thursday coming up, of course. I don't know if it's the intent of the committee to meet on that particular day. Or do we leave it until we come back after the Christmas recess? I'm looking to the committee members for some direction.

Mr. Arnold.

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

Thank you, Chair.

The House calendar shows us sitting through till Friday. Are we going to be meeting on Thursday?

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

That's what I'm asking the committee now.

Go ahead, Mr. Cormier.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

Serge Cormier Liberal Acadie—Bathurst, NB

I'm sorry. Go ahead, Mel.

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

I would suggest we could meet on Thursday to discuss some of these motions and hopefully pass them to be moved forward.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Okay.

Mr. Cormier.