Let me go back. Here's what I want you to focus on.
Numerous witnesses who have appeared before the committee have pointed out that the penalty is insignificant as it relates to the crime, whether it's for elvers or others. We've had fisheries become extremely valuable—the lobster fishery, for example. Sometimes getting caught is the cost of doing business, so it's not really a deterrent.
Since it's very difficult to have fishery protection personnel in every backyard, I firmly believe that the penalties and the implications for the person doing the wrongdoing must be much higher. In the time I have left, could you give me your opinion on that, since you're the chief administrative person in the department?