Evidence of meeting #118 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Mark Waddell  Director General, Fisheries Policy, Department of Fisheries and Oceans
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Geneviève Dubois-Richard

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

On that note, Madame Desbiens, I will ask members whether they're in favour of allowing the officials to exit the room if they want to. It's not looking as if we're going to get much done with the officials today. We'll have to try at another time.

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Serge Cormier Liberal Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Mr. Chair, before that, can we call the vote now on Mr. Arnold's motion?

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The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Mr. Arnold is not finished, to my understanding.

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6:15 p.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

Unless there's a point of order, I believe I have the floor.

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The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Well, I recognized Mr. Cormier.

I mentioned to the officials...if they wanted to stay or go. It doesn't look as if there's going to be any interaction with the officials today. I don't want to waste their evening. It's bad enough for us to be out here wasting our own time.

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An hon. member

I have no interpretation.

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The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

No interpretation....

I just want to know whether the officials can go.

Is everyone in favour?

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Mike Kelloway Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

I'm not. I still think there's an opportunity to—

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The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

It's up to you guys. If you want to give up on this evening, by all means—

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Mark Waddell Director General, Fisheries Policy, Department of Fisheries and Oceans

We're in your hands, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

No, it's up to you now. I'm saying you have the freedom to leave now, or you can wait until the meeting ends at 6:30, 7:30 or whatever time it has to end. I don't think we're going to get too much in the way of hearing from officials, or getting questions to officials. As chair, I give the four of you permission to leave. Hopefully, we'll get back to it again down the road, and we'll invite you back to do your presentation. I hate wasting people's time just staring into your gaze to understand what's going on here.

It's up to you guys. You're free to go. I appreciate the fact that you showed up. Hopefully, we'll get you back in the future and listen to what you had to say.

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Mike Kelloway Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

Mr. Chair, can we suspend the meeting?

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The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

For a moment....

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Mike Kelloway Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

For a moment....

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The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Okay.

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An hon. member

No.

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The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

What do you mean, “no”?

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Mike Kelloway Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

If you don't want us to do that, we'll remember it.

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The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

We'll suspend for a moment.

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The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

All right, nobody left, so I'm going to tell the officials this: We're not going to get any testimony from you tonight. I'm going out on a limb saying that. I'll say that you can leave now, and we'll get back in touch when we're ready to do the study again down the road. I don't want to waste any more of your time. I think that's exactly what we're doing now—wasting your time with the four of you being here.

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6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Yes.

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6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

I take offence to you saying that we are wasting their time. I think they are hearing honest words from this group.

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The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

They can leave if they want to. I'm just saying they were invited here for a purpose.

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6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

My point of order is that you're putting words—

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