Evidence of meeting #122 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was stock.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Sylvie Lapointe  President, Atlantic Groundfish Council
Alberto Wareham  President and Chief Executive Officer, Icewater Seafoods Inc.
Carey Bonnell  Vice-President, Sustainability and Engagement, Ocean Choice International
Lyne Morissette  Doctor of Marine Ecology, Fisheries and Marine Mammal Specialist, M-Expertise Marine Inc., As an Individual
David Vardy  Economist, As an Individual

11 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

I call this meeting to order.

Welcome to meeting number 122 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans. This meeting is taking place in a hybrid format pursuant to the Standing Orders.

Before we proceed, I would like to make a few comments for the benefit of witnesses and members. Please wait until I recognize you by name before speaking. Those in the room can use the earpieces and select the desired channel. Please address all comments through the chair.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted on Monday, September 16, 2024, the committee is resuming its study of the impact of the reopening of the cod fishery in Newfoundland and Labrador and Quebec.

I want to say a huge welcome to our witnesses. For our first panel, we have Sylvie Lapointe, president, Atlantic Groundfish Council; Alberto Wareham, president and chief executive officer, Icewater Seafoods Inc.; and Carey Bonnell, vice-president, sustainability and engagement, Ocean Choice International.

Thank you for taking the time to appear today. You each have five minutes or less for your opening statement.

Ms. Lapointe, you have the floor.

Sylvie Lapointe President, Atlantic Groundfish Council

Good morning. Thank you, Chair.

I would like to thank the committee for inviting the Atlantic Groundfish Council to appear before you today to contribute to your study on northern cod.

Our offshore cod members are adjacent to the resource and are family-owned and family-operated businesses in Newfoundland and Labrador, including the Wareham family from Arnold's Cove and the Sullivan family from Calvert. Combined, our members employ more than 2,000 people from over 300 communities throughout Newfoundland and Labrador. This includes hundreds of crew members in our offshore operations who work year-round and live primarily in rural communities, contributing to regional economic development.

The return of the commercial cod fishery in Newfoundland and Labrador is something we have all remained hopeful about and committed to. The AGC and its members continue to be invested in the growth of this resource and its long-term sustainability. In this regard, we recognize the importance of Canada continuing its responsibility to be stewards of this iconic cod stock, and we will continue to contribute to this goal.

Over the last three decades, we have been working to rebuild the northern cod stock through continued engagement with Fisheries and Oceans Canada and other stakeholders at every opportunity available, including participating in and contributing to northern cod science assessments, advisory committee meetings and working groups. Of note, our commitment has included a $9-million fishery improvement project in partnership with the Sustainable Fisheries Partnership, with customers like Marks and Spencer, Young's Seafood and Thistle Seafoods in the United Kingdom, Sysco France, and High Liner Foods in Canada and the United States financially contributing to it.

Our FIP brings together academia, government, supply chain partners and industry. The FIP is conducting world-class, groundbreaking research on cod migration and stock composition. Our northern cod acoustic tracking project has improved our understanding of cod migration and genetic linkages. This knowledge is crucial to long-term fisheries management and to building a Marine Stewardship Council certified fishery.

The latest assessment of northern cod confirms that the stock has been in the cautious zone of DFO's precautionary approach framework since 2016 and is estimated to be 24% above the limit reference point in 2024. Results from the science assessment show that northern cod stock size has remained stable and relatively unchanged since 2016. Similar to previous years, we see that fishing mortality remains low and natural mortality continues to be high. We note there are some positive signals in the stock, such as above-average fish condition, a wide range of ages—indicating that older fish are surviving—broad dispersal of the biomass stock across stock units, continued recruitment at about 80% of historical levels and increased fishery catch rates. Furthermore, northern cod is now the second-largest groundfish stock in Atlantic Canada behind unit 1 redfish in terms of total biomass.

Based on these factors, this is no longer a stewardship fishery but rather a commercial fishery, consistent with the stock's cautious zone status. Without knowing until now that the stock has been in the cautious zone for eight years, there has already been potential revenue lost from this fishery. The economic and societal success of the northern cod fishery in Newfoundland and Labrador requires a balanced fishery, which includes inshore, midshore and offshore components. A balanced fishery will ensure continued access to premium global markets year-round, longer operating seasons for vessels and plants—which promote more year-round, higher-paying employment in coastal communities—and an environment conducive for investment in industry modernization and technology.

Our sector supports a balanced fishery that promotes the viability and stability of all fleet sectors. Within this context, the Canadian offshore sector was provided with access to northern cod for the 2024-25 commercial fishery. We continue to propose a phased approach that will see our share increase—consistent with historical levels—over time, as the fishery grows.

Going forward, as acknowledged by DFO, industry and other stakeholders, there is a need to begin assessing a suite of candidate harvest strategies for northern cod that can determine appropriate fishery removal levels for the stock as it moves throughout the cautious zone of the precautionary approach framework. This will require the determination of an upper stock reference point and accompanying harvest rate, which have not yet been established for this stock.

We welcome the department's commitment to convene the northern cod working group to complete this important work as soon as possible in order to have an approved harvest control rule prior to the 2025 season. We look forward to working collaboratively to achieve an appropriate harvest strategy for northern cod to support a long-term, sustainable fishery.

Thank you for your time. I look forward to your questions.

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Thank you for that.

We'll now go to Mr. Wareham for five minutes or less.

Alberto Wareham President and Chief Executive Officer, Icewater Seafoods Inc.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Many people have spoken at this committee about the start of the cod moratorium on July 2, 1992, and its end on June 26, 2024. I'd like to start by talking about the time in between those dates.

After the moratorium, most people and communities across Newfoundland and Labrador moved on from cod to other species of fish, other industries and—for some—other provinces. The Icewater Seafoods plant in Arnold's Cove, Newfoundland, has continued to process cod and only cod. To some, that might seem ill advised, but Icewater Seafoods and the people of Arnold's Cove defied the odds. Thirty-two years later, we are the only plant in North America focused solely on producing premium-quality North Atlantic cod year-round.

Many people, understandably, attribute that to the relentless commitment of my late father, Bruce Wareham. He knew that, while Newfoundland has a 500-year history of cod, it is a history of quantity and not quality. Newfoundland cannot compete in premium global cod markets or maximize the value of the species for people and communities by focusing on quantity. It has to be focused on quality. My father recognized this 30 years ago, and we have continued to focus on quality ever since.

We completed a three-year, $14-million upgrade in 2020, investing in technology needed to ensure the Arnold's Cove plant remains one of the top cod-producing plants in the world. We employ more than 220 local people, whom we proudly call our cod experts. Their pay is among the highest wages in the seafood processing industry in Atlantic Canada, and their pride and loyalty are clear. Two employees have celebrated 50 years of service, and there are currently 21 employees with over 40 years of service. What we have accomplished together is incredible. Our cod is supplied to premium markets, with the majority going to the U.K. and France—the two largest markets in the world for premium-quality cod. Icewater is one of only a few plants in the world approved to supply cod to Marks and Spencer. Even with a small cod quota, we proved it can be done.

The decision of one company and one community not to move on from cod has been critical to the local and regional economy for over 20 years. As of fall 2023, the company has contributed approximately $272 million, which goes back to the local economy through fish purchases from inshore harvesters, direct wages and salaries to employees, costs paid to local transportation and logistics companies for collecting the raw material throughout Newfoundland, and the products and services we source from local companies for the operation of the plant.

Let me be clear. None of this happens without year-round supply. This means that none of it happens without Canadian—or, in this case, Newfoundland—offshore harvesters being part of the fishery. We call this a balanced fishery. Marks and Spencer requires cod 12 months of the year, regardless of whether it is purchased from Iceland, Norway or Newfoundland. Newfoundland accounts for just 3% of the 2024 world supply of north Atlantic cod. We are not in a position to negotiate a seasonal supply.

When Minister Lebouthillier announced the end of the cod moratorium in June, it was a great day for the community of Arnold's Cove. While the Canadian offshore harvesters quota is only 6%, the economic value it enables is much higher. It allows northern cod to compete in those year-round global markets. That means more work for plant workers and better prices per pound for inshore harvesters, who benefit from the year-round model. In 2024 alone, the price increase to inshore harvesters is estimated to be $10 million.

I know some have highlighted to this committee just how fast inshore harvesters caught and landed their cod this year. In fact, they caught more in 48 hours than offshore harvesters were allocated for the entire year. However, a successful fishery isn't just about catching the fish and landing it. It has to be focused on landing a quality product that can be processed and sold to premium cod markets year-round. The top cod-fishing nations in the world, Iceland and Norway, have a year-round model. The majority of their cod is caught by trawlers that fish during the winter months. They have maintained MSC sustainability certification, the global standard for seafood sustainability. Their fisheries are successful.

If Canada wants a cod fishery that can compete on the world stage in premium markets, it cannot be an inshore-only model. It has to be a balanced fishery, with all sectors participating. We know what works. We proved it in Arnold's Cove. We ask this committee to have the courage to support priority for the inshore harvesters without shutting out local offshore harvesters, because that is the only model that works.

Thank you.

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Thank you, Mr. Wareham.

We'll now go to Mr. Bonnell for five minutes or less.

Carey Bonnell Vice-President, Sustainability and Engagement, Ocean Choice International

Thank you for the opportunity to appear before the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans.

Ocean Choice is a family-owned and family-operated Newfoundland and Labrador company started over 20 years ago by brothers Martin and Blaine Sullivan from the southern shore, an area of the province with deep roots in the fishery. Our company employs nearly 1,500 people from over 300 communities throughout the province.

Over the past couple of decades, Ocean Choice has made major investments in our groundfish operations, including preparing for northern cod. Chief among those investments were the construction and introduction of the MV Calvert to the fleet in 2020. At a cost of more than $60 million, this is the most modern and innovative green-class groundfish vessel in the Canadian fleet, employing approximately 80 local crew members on a year-round basis.

A lot of opinions have been expressed on the topic of northern cod since the reopening decision in July. We are all entitled to our opinions but not our own facts. Here are the facts on northern cod from our standpoint.

Northern cod is the second-largest groundfish resource in Atlantic Canada and the third-largest cod fishery in the world, with a total biomass of more than 500,000 metric tons. DFO's 2024 stock assessment confirmed that the northern cod stock is approximately 24% above the limit reference point, the boundary between the cautious and critical zones of DFO's precautionary approach framework. To the best of my knowledge, every fish stock in Atlantic Canada that is in the cautious zone of the PA framework has a commercial fishery. Why should northern cod be treated any differently?

The FFAW has repeatedly referred to a 40-year policy commitment on the first 115,000 metric tons of northern cod. No such historical policy commitment exists. The participation of offshore harvesters in the northern cod fishery in the post-1977 era was deliberate and carefully considered by government. The long-standing government allocation policy is a commitment to priority for the inshore, not exclusivity. Key elements of that policy were adopted in 1979 by DFO at the Corner Brook conference, which defined priority to be two-thirds inshore and one-third offshore. This was reinforced in 1983, when the government adopted the Kirby task force report, and then reviewed and endorsed in 2004 when the government adopted a policy framework for the management of fisheries on Canada's Atlantic coast.

The 2024 allocation decision is one based on well-documented public policy that provides priority access to the inshore and indigenous groups in Newfoundland and Labrador but also respects the historical rights of the offshore sector. The misinformation regarding the Newfoundland and Labrador offshore sector is especially disappointing.

Some misconceptions about trawling linger from pre-moratorium fisheries, but others are perpetuated by groups attempting to advance their own agendas. The seafood industry has changed drastically over the past three decades. Today, the offshore sector adheres to rigorous standards, including independent observer coverage, spatial closures, vessel-monitoring systems and many other measures that minimize environmental impact for all species.

These measures are essential for preserving marine ecosystems while meeting global food demand responsibly. In Iceland, for example, more than 124,000 metric tons of cod were harvested by trawling in 2022, accounting for 52.4% of cod landings for that year. In fact, trawling has been the predominant gear used in Iceland to fish cod for more than a generation. We have knowledge that the Icelandic cod fishery is considered the most sustainable in the world, so it's illogical to reconcile that with the current debate here that 1,080 metric tons of northern cod harvested by the mobile gear sector will somehow do irreparable harm.

Offshore fishing vessels such as the ones operated by OCI employ Newfoundlanders and Labradorians. They operate year-round and land at local wharves and cold-storage facilities, where they off-load and are serviced, providing millions of dollars in direct and indirect wages and economic spinoffs in coastal communities. In the case of northern cod, virtually all of the quota harvested on our offshore vessels will be further processed at Icewater Seafoods in Arnold's Cove, creating local employment and extending operating seasons.

For those worried about repeating past mistakes, keep in mind that the 2024 decision established a very conservative exploitation rate of approximately 5%. Most cod fisheries today have exploitation rates in excess of 20%, and northern cod rates exceeded 50% leading up to the moratorium. Furthermore, northern cod is assessed annually, and exploitation rates can be adjusted accordingly based on survey results.

What should be most celebrated about the reopening decision is that domestic allocations were provided to Newfoundland and Labrador inshore, northern, indigenous and offshore interests for the sole benefit of this province. That's 18,000 metric tons of cod that will be harvested, processed and marketed in our province over longer operating seasons, making us far more competitive globally. This is a very good start to a reopened commercial cod fishery.

In closing—perhaps the best indicator of where the truth lies on this issue—the Federal Court ruled last week on the FFAW's injunction request to suspend the 2024 decision. In a forum that deals solely in facts, the court soundly rejected the FFAW, stating, among other things, that the court cannot issue an interlocutory injunction when the remedy the applicants seek is precluded by their own actions. That fish has swum.

Thank you for considering my input. I welcome any comments or questions.

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Thank you for that. I think it's the first time three witnesses either went right on time or a bit under time, so you're to be congratulated.

We'll now start with our rounds of questioning.

Mr. Small, you're up first for six minutes or less.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Clifford Small Conservative Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you to the witnesses for coming out today to take part in this very important study.

My first question is for Ms. Lapointe.

Ms. Lapointe, the 115,000-tonne promise to the inshore fleet was made by the Prime Minister during the 2015 election campaign. It stated that a Liberal government would allocate the first 115,000 tonnes of northern cod to the inshore fleet.

Given your extensive knowledge of our commitments to NAFO, is that a promise the Prime Minister and his ministers could have kept to the inshore fleet?

11:15 a.m.

President, Atlantic Groundfish Council

Sylvie Lapointe

Thank you, Chair, for the question.

As I recall, the commitment was made by the Liberal Party. The letter was in response to a questionnaire the FFAW sent to all political parties during the 2015 election.

I can't speak about NAFO commitments per se in this regard. However, as my colleague Mr. Bonnell noted, there's never been a policy or legislative commitment to give exclusive access to the first 115,000 tonnes to inshore. Priority access was outlined, but not exclusivity.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Clifford Small Conservative Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

If a quota was set in excess of 100,000 tonnes, do you not think the federal government would have to deal with NAFO and the 5% commitment to them? Could a government have issued that allocation to the inshore fleet and not have had push-back from NAFO somewhere along the line? Is it a promise the Prime Minister could have kept?

11:15 a.m.

President, Atlantic Groundfish Council

Sylvie Lapointe

The NAFO commitment is this: Once Canada declares a commercial fishery for northern cod, NAFO-contracting parties are entitled to 5%.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Clifford Small Conservative Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

Do you think the Prime Minister made a commitment he just could not keep?

11:15 a.m.

President, Atlantic Groundfish Council

Sylvie Lapointe

Exclusive access—which, as I said, has never been a long-standing government commitment—is definitely not possible if 5% needs to go to NAFO-contracting parties once a commercial fishery is opened.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Clifford Small Conservative Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

We hear a lot of talk about bottom trawling and whatnot. It's a well-known fact that vessels travel nearly 2,000 miles from the Faroe Islands to fish the Flemish Cap for codfish using hook and line.

Is it not possible that we could have an offshore fishery using hook and line if vessels only have to travel 150 miles, Mr. Bonnell? Do you think that would give a greater eco-certification to northern cod harvested in Newfoundland and Labrador?

11:15 a.m.

Vice-President, Sustainability and Engagement, Ocean Choice International

Carey Bonnell

No. There's a long history of mobile gear fishing. Some of the most well-managed fisheries in the world are trawl-based. Of global fisheries today, 25% are trawl-based, and 84 trawl-based fisheries are MSC-certified. I think Dr. Ray Hilborn testified about this at the court hearing.

We're some of the most well-managed fisheries in the world. How we fish today with mobile gear is nothing like how we fished pre-moratorium. The volumes we fish today are nothing like those we fished pre-moratorium. In fact, a significant portion of the inshore fishery in Newfoundland and Labrador is trawl-based. You're having a huge debate here about unit 1 redfish. Well, how do you think they fish? For inshore, midshore and offshore, it's all mobile gear fishing.

I'm not criticizing it. It's done sustainably. The rules and management measures in place are far better today than they ever were in the past.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Clifford Small Conservative Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

Thank you, Mr. Bonnell.

Pre-moratorium, what percentage of fish harvested by OCI—formerly FPI—was processed in onshore plants in Newfoundland and Labrador?

11:20 a.m.

Vice-President, Sustainability and Engagement, Ocean Choice International

Carey Bonnell

That's pre-Ocean Choice and pre-Carey Bonnell. You're looking at pre-1992.

Historically, about 46% was fished by the offshore sector. A fairly significant portion of that would have been land-based—

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

Clifford Small Conservative Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

Yes, close to 100% of it would have been processed.

11:20 a.m.

Vice-President, Sustainability and Engagement, Ocean Choice International

Carey Bonnell

I don't know the number offhand. It would be a large percentage.

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

Clifford Small Conservative Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

Going forward, what are OCI's plans for the processing of its quotas in its plants in Bonavista, Triton and whatnot? If Icewater is processing in Arnold's Cove, what are your plans for Triton and Bonavista if you were to receive further increases from this?

11:20 a.m.

Vice-President, Sustainability and Engagement, Ocean Choice International

Carey Bonnell

That's a fair question.

Bonavista and Triton are kept quite busy, as you know, with the snow crab fishery and some other fisheries. We've provided very meaningful employment to 500 or 600 people, probably, in those two operations combined alone.

Our commitment this year is this: Everything we fish in the offshore will go to Icewater Seafoods, reducing or eliminating their reliance on importing frozen-at-sea cod from elsewhere. We've indicated publicly—as I'll indicate here—that, as the quota grows, we will look at opportunities to further process cod in our facilities as well, of course.

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

Clifford Small Conservative Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

I have one more quick question.

Could the offshore fleet not have been given an experimental research quota under the auspices of a stewardship fishery, so the fishery could remain a stewardship fishery, with the offshore receiving a portion to supplement DFO's failed trial surveys?

11:20 a.m.

Vice-President, Sustainability and Engagement, Ocean Choice International

Carey Bonnell

I have two points on that.

I think—

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

The time is up. The six minutes for Mr. Small have expired.

Mr. Bonnell, if you have an answer to that question, send it to the committee in writing. If you have another opportunity to answer it later on, that's fine.

October 21st, 2024 / 11:20 a.m.

Vice-President, Sustainability and Engagement, Ocean Choice International

Carey Bonnell

That's no problem.