Fisheries Committee on Dec. 4th, 2024

[The Chair, Liberal, Ken McDonald]

We only have until 6:32.

[Rick Perkins, Conservative, South Shore—St. Margarets, NS]

I'd just like to finish with what the agenda says.

[The Chair, Liberal, Ken McDonald]

Madam Clerk, how much time do we have?

[Rick Perkins, Conservative, South Shore—St. Margarets, NS]

Madam Clerk, did you check with the central authorities on the time?

No, you didn't. It is your responsibility under the rules of the House.

The clerk has to check whether we can get additional resources. You don't get to rule on that. It's up to the clerk.

[Serge Cormier, Liberal, Acadie—Bathurst, NB]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

[Rick Perkins, Conservative, South Shore—St. Margarets, NS]

Those are the rules, sir.

[Serge Cormier, Liberal, Acadie—Bathurst, NB]

Mr. Perkins deciding what—

[Rick Perkins, Conservative, South Shore—St. Margarets, NS]

If you were in Ottawa, you'd know it.

[Serge Cormier, Liberal, Acadie—Bathurst, NB]

I have a point of order on the floor, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Ken McDonald]

How do you know he's not in Ottawa? Somebody complained about his back picture before. He might be in his office. He could be in his hotel room.

[Serge Cormier, Liberal, Acadie—Bathurst, NB]

Mr. Perkins and Mr. Small were in their car sometimes for votes.

[Rick Perkins, Conservative, South Shore—St. Margarets, NS]

No, sorry, that never happened.

You cannot lie, Serge. I've never voted from my car. I know that Liberals like to do it regularly. I've never done that. I go to the House to vote. You should try it sometime.

[Bobby Morrissey, Liberal, Egmont, PE]

Chair, can I raise a point of order?

[The Chair, Liberal, Ken McDonald]

Yes. We have a point of order and then another point of order.

[Bobby Morrissey, Liberal, Egmont, PE]

Thank you.

The chair called the agenda of the meeting. We had witnesses brought in to discuss important issues. I would like to have gotten to my question round, but I respect the agenda set forward by the chair.

Can we have some order and get to that particular stage?

[Rick Perkins, Conservative, South Shore—St. Margarets, NS]

We have to check for an extension.

[The Chair, Liberal, Ken McDonald]

We have to vote on the challenge first.

[The Clerk of the Committee, Ms. Geneviève Dubois-Richard]

If you vote to sustain the decision of the chair, we go to votes. If you vote nay, we defeat the challenge and continue questioning the witnesses.

[Lisa Marie Barron, NDP, Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC]

I have a point of order. I don't have the full information to make a sound vote.

[Rick Perkins, Conservative, South Shore—St. Margarets, NS]

Do you want an explanation from the chair or the clerk?

[The Clerk]

There was a challenge to continue questioning the witnesses—

[Lisa Marie Barron, NDP, Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC]

No, I know. It's hard to know whether to sustain the challenge or not if I don't have the full information on the process. That's the concern.

[The Clerk]

To sustain the decision of the chair, you vote yea.

[Lisa Marie Barron, NDP, Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC]

I understand that.

[The Clerk]

Okay, sorry.