There's a group of bogeymen. That's the thing. We need to identify them all and reduce them by whatever means is acceptable to protect wild salmon. Today, we don't have that. We don't have an eye for the protection of salmon in British Columbia. We have mitigation plans, which have failed endlessly.
I'm not in disagreement with you about the pinnipeds. I know that they represent an impact, but so do flooding, wildfires and fish farms. Where can we strategically address all of them, consistent with first nation views of environment and respecting the constitutional rights that first nations have?