Evidence of meeting #3 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Tina Miller
Michael Chalupovitsch  Committee Researcher

12:35 p.m.

Liberal

Mike Kelloway Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

It was just sent. That would have been within the 60-second time frame I asked for, but it should be there now.

12:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

To your comment, Mr. Zimmer, as the clerk reiterated, many times when motions are made, we accept amendments without their being interpreted, because they are read into the record and translated by the translators who are provided to the meeting by the House.

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC

But, Mr. Chair, that's not a motion.

That said, let's keep going.

12:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Yes.

12:35 p.m.

Liberal

Mike Kelloway Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

I apologize for this.

Mr. Chair, can the clerk indicate she's received it? It has been sent.

12:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Mike, could I ask you to read the motion again slowly so that translation can translate it?

Tina is giving a thumbs-up.

12:40 p.m.

Liberal

Mike Kelloway Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

Would you like me to read it, Chair?

12:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Sure.

12:40 p.m.

Liberal

Mike Kelloway Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

The motion reads as follows:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) the committee undertake a study to examine the impact of climate change on our oceans and the role oceans can play in carbon sequestration; that the committee meet for no less than 6 meetings in relation to the study; that each party send a list of witnesses, by priority, including their contact information to the Clerk of the Committee; that the Committee report its findings to the House and; that, pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Government table a comprehensive response.

12:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Thank you.

Before we proceed, I will ask Mr. Cormier if he was able to hear that in time, through translation, so that we can go to a vote.

Okay: My right hand is telling me that I have to open it up to debate before I call the question.

Go ahead, Madame Desbiens.

12:40 p.m.

Bloc

Caroline Desbiens Bloc Beauport—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île d’Orléans—Charlevoix, QC

Like Mr. Arnold, I wanted to make sure that I had time to move a fourth motion before the end of the meeting. I didn't raise my hand to participate in the debate.

12:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Thank you.

Is there any discussion on Mr. Kelloway's motion?

Can I see either a thumbs-up or a thumbs-down?

(Motion agreed to)

That passed unanimously.

Thank you, Mr. Kelloway, for your understanding on that.

Mr. Arnold, I know that you'd put up your hand, but my assistant had Madame Desbiens down as the next person to speak. Then we'll go to you.

Please proceed, Madame Desbiens.

12:40 p.m.

Bloc

Caroline Desbiens Bloc Beauport—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île d’Orléans—Charlevoix, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Can I give a brief introduction before I read my motion, or would you rather I read the motion and make my comments afterwards?

12:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Please do so.

12:40 p.m.

Bloc

Caroline Desbiens Bloc Beauport—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île d’Orléans—Charlevoix, QC

Okay. I move:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study on the introduction of recreational saltwater fishing licences in eastern Quebec; that the committee invite the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans, as well as experts, citizens and fishers to appear; that the committee hold no less than five meetings; and that the committee present its findings and recommendations to the House.

I want to add that this is an extremely important issue, particularly in Quebec. I know that the issue is also important in the Maritimes. Recreational fishing is woven into the fabric of the people living along the St. Lawrence and the Gaspé coast and the shores of the Maritimes. The fishing is recreational, of course, but it also helps feed some families.

I recall that, last spring, in my constituency, there was a capelin issue. Everyone wanted to eat capelin, but the only woman who could fish for it had a licence that came into effect after the capelin arrived that year. All kinds of ambiguities of this nature also affect your constituents and your respective regions.

I feel very strongly about this motion because it concerns the identity of most of the people living along the shores of eastern Canada and the St. Lawrence River in Quebec.

12:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Thank you for that.

Mr. Perkins, do you want to speak to the motion?

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

Yes.

British Columbia has a very robust recreational saltwater fishery. In Atlantic Canada, currently there is no recreational fishery for many species. I would support this motion, but I would like to add an amendment, if I could, to add “Atlantic Canada” after “eastern Quebec” in the motion.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

We have heard the proposed amendment by Mr. Perkins. Is there any discussion on the proposed amendment?

Go ahead, Mr. Small.

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Clifford Small Conservative Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

I'd like to know if this motion is species-specific. That's my question.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Go ahead, Mr. Perkins.

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

No. That would be part of the study and the discussion. I don't want to limit it to particular species by naming them. The species may be a little different in different provinces and shorelines.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Thank you.

Seeing no other hands up, can I ask for a vote on the amendment, please? Will this be a show of hands, or do you want a recorded vote? I see thumbs-up.

Go ahead, Mr. Morrissey.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

Bobby Morrissey Liberal Egmont, PE

I'm not sure what you're asking me to vote on.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

It is the amendment as proposed by Mr. Perkins.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

Bobby Morrissey Liberal Egmont, PE

Then Mr. Small spoke to it too, so I'm confused.