We have a number of systems we monitor extensively. As it's been said, the Gold River is on Vancouver Island. It's on the west coast, of course. You know where it is. It's a couple of hours from your backyard. When you get down and you start counting zeros, the time for monitoring has long passed us. When you get down to 20 fish in the Chilcotin and 104 in the Thompson.... We can start counting in the Skeena and do a better job because we still have thousands of fish, but on Vancouver Island and off the Fraser, we do not have thousands of fish to count anymore.
Again, I would urge this committee to take the triage approach and say, “We don't have any fish in these areas. We need to start pulling all tools available so that we can ensure that these animals, these fish, do not go functionally extinct.”