I would say though that certainly the people are just as passionate. Yes, it is just as important from one end of the country to the other. Again, moving DFO to an outcome-based agency really could be an important goal for this committee in terms of delivering things on the ground.
We all know that we have issues with sustainability. The question is how we change that. More years of planning, more years of policy, more years of process have not and will not change that. We need to start getting onto some policy that's pulling some levers as it relates to sustainability.