It could be possible. As expressed, there is definitely a concern from former officers that there has been, and there is, an ongoing culture shift within compliance and protection. There's been a move away from people who are young and who care about the resource. There's been a shift to bringing managers in from other ministries. It is not going well. I think the result is that there's a lack of presence on the river.
I don't know why that's happening at the top end, but at the bottom end, we're certainly seeing the result with the lack of presence.