It's variable. As I said, the best example is that, in a year, potentially only 21 fish got up to spawn. Two of them died in one day and were found by fisheries officers. The challenge with this is that we don't know what we don't know. If we don't have a presence on the river, we don't know what's going missing.
We definitely have years where reports go through the roof and we find all kinds of issues related to IUU. I did see the previous speaker. There certainly has been a lot of discussion, which I haven't been privy to, around even the discovery of potentially a million pounds of fish that were found on a foreign vessel off the west coast.
It's big. These are not trivial amounts. Do we know how much? No. We get only a small fraction of what's actually happening out there.