I can tell you that I've always believed in one licence in and one licence out, as it applies to the lobster fishery or a species fishery. In some cases, there are individuals who fish without a licence—grey boats or black boats, as they call them—but then there are also the other individuals who can turn a fast buck.
It's no different from contraband cigarettes. We used to float them down the river at St. Croix and into St. Stephen. They'd be dropped at the border and floated down. It's a way of making money or supplementing your income. You don't have to pay taxes.
It applies the same way to the fishery. If I can bring in 500, 600, 1,000 or 10,000 pounds—whatever, it doesn't matter—I can sell that at a reduced cost and get cash in my pocket.
It's organized crime, I have to say. That's exactly what it is: organized crime.