Evidence of meeting #99 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chinook.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Brandy Mayes  Manager, Operations & Fish and Wildlife I Heritage, Lands and Resources, Kwanlin Dün First Nation
Nicole Tom  Chief, Little Salmon Carmacks First Nation
Stephanie Peacock  Senior Analyst, Pacific Salmon Foundation
Bathsheba Demuth  Dean's Associate Professor of History and Environment and Society, Brown University, As an Individual
Dennis Zimmermann  Fish and Wildlife Consultant and Pacific Salmon Treaty Panel Member, Big Fish Little Fish Consultants, As an Individual
Rhonda Pitka  Chief, Beaver Village Council
Elizabeth MacDonald  Council of Yukon First Nations

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Mr. Cormier has his hand up.

February 15th, 2024 / 4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Serge Cormier Liberal Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Yes, Mr. Chair.

I'd like to propose a minor amendment to this motion. I can read it, and then I can send it to the committee.

The end of Ms. Desbiens' motion reads “that the committee report its findings and recommendations to the House.”

That would be replaced by “that the committee draft a letter at the end of the study with its recommendations to the Minister for a plan to assist the shrimp industry.”

At the end, then, instead of what I just read, it will be, “That the committee draft a letter at the end of the study with its recommendation to the minister for a plan to assist the shrimp industry.”

I'm going to send it to the clerk right now.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Is there any other discussion?

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

Can we just suspend for a couple of minutes?

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Okay, we'll suspend for a couple of minutes.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

First off, does everybody have a copy of the amendment by Mr. Cormier?

Is there any discussion?

Not hearing any discussion, we'll vote on the amendment, or is everybody fine with it?

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

We have no opposition to the amendment.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Okay, so there is no opposition from you guys and nothing from our side.

Madame Desbiens, you are okay with the addition, with the amendment, are you?

4:10 p.m.

Bloc

Caroline Desbiens Bloc Beauport—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île d’Orléans—Charlevoix, QC

Given the urgency of the situation, I think the letter may be the best way to get back to the fishers quickly.

(Amendment agreed to)

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

All right, now we'll go to the motion as amended.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Serge Cormier Liberal Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Mr. Chair, I just want to clarify one thing, just to make sure that the clerk understands: It was the removal of the report by...?

Okay, that's perfect.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Mr. Arnold, go ahead.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

Thank you.

We seem to have a lot of new studies stacking up. One comes in and it displaces one that's already on the docket, and then another one comes in and it replaces the most recent study—

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Lisa Marie Barron NDP Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair. I'm sorry, to my colleague. It's just that the translation is not working.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

There's no translation?

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

I can try again to see—

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Okay, try again, Mel.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

Okay. We seem to be having a lot of study motions coming in. One replaces or displaces motions and studies that we already have on the docket, and the next time around we have a motion for another study to displace what we agreed to in the last meeting.

I suggest, Mr. Chair, that we should probably have a subcommittee meeting to discuss some of this and to try to determine the workflow and work plan in the near future.

With that I'll turn it over to others.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Actually, I agree to a certain extent, Mr. Arnold. We should pretty soon have an hour or so dedicated to committee business to look at what's already in the bucket to be done and what new ones have come in, and see where and when things are going to fit.

Between now and June there's really not a lot of time. We have one sitting week in March. Then it's April, May, June and we're done. We should try to do that no later than Thursday of this week, or we should try to do it when we first come back from the break week, to try to nail this down.

Again, I'll go back to the motion as amended.

I know it was asked that we have February 27 and February 29, but that may not happen. We will have an hour or so dedicated to just committee business when we come back after next week's break, to look at the schedule and see where we can fit things in.

We have witnesses lined up for Thursday already, for the Yukon salmon study. I don't want to cancel on them right now, because they're making arrangements.

Go ahead, Mr. Arnold.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

We also still have to provide drafting instructions for the IUU study. Hopefully we can do that before all of our memories fade as to what we've heard.

Thank you.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Yes.

Is everyone okay with the motion as amended?

(Motion as amended agreed to)

Ms. Barron, go ahead for six minutes or less, please.

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Lisa Marie Barron NDP Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I want to thank all of the witnesses for being here. There's lots of really great testimony that will help us in our work on this important topic.

Mr. Chair, this should take only one minute at most. It pertains to this study, which is why I'm bringing it up now. I did provide a motion to my colleagues. I believe the clerk has it to circulate as well. As it pertains to the study we're talking about today, I just want to move:

That the committee include—

The word “include” is in there.

—two hours of witness testimony in its study on the population sustainability of the Yukon salmon stocks focused on transboundary issues related to the long-term health of B.C. wild salmon populations.

It's become increasingly evident as we've been listening to witnesses that this motion is important to expand the study slightly. However, it won't take more time. It will be included within the study at hand.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

Thank you.

We've heard the terms of the motion.

Mr. Arnold, go ahead.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Mel Arnold Conservative North Okanagan—Shuswap, BC

To add clarity, the paper document that was circulated had the words “add two hours”. The motion—

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken McDonald

She actually changed it to “include” on the one that I have.