Yes, I think you do. In actuality, I'm not sure if there has ever been an instance where a licence has actually been cancelled or taken back because of this.
There have been a lot of investigations and changes made and stuff like this. The only case that's on record, I think, is a case out of Newfoundland: the Elson case. If I can be very frank, that was just a case put forward by some of the companies there as a trial balloon to see if they could set a floor for what they could get away with. That gentleman, I think, ended up losing that licence.
Outside of that, there has been no real enforcement in terms of loss of licence or penalties—monetary penalties—but there should be. Again, it takes numerous people to put together this kind of fraudulent act, as I keep calling it. You have the lawyers and even the fishermen who are selling the licences to these corporations. They know full well that they're participating in something that they should not be doing. They're simply selling the licence to the corporation for a few extra dollars, based on the market value. Corporations can certainly afford more money.
Again, until folks are made examples of...unfortunately, it's going to take something like that, somebody to be made an example of, whether it's a cancellation of a licence or loss of money and stuff like that, or lawyers' firms being held accountable, as I pointed out in my presentation, or even the brokers. They know the rules, yet they still send.... When something comes up, instead of trying to find a young gentleman within their community to sell the licence to—yes, I know it's hard to find financing and all that—the first call the brokers make is to a company. They know it's a quick transaction for them. The companies have the money, and they get a cut.
There's a lot of this stuff. A lot of people have to be held accountable.