Ms. Graham, under this Liberal government's 30 by 30 policy and this tremendous push to keep up with a numbers game.... Thirty is a number and 2030 is a number as well, so it's a numbers game. If you had to evaluate the trust from the fishing industry, from the oil and gas industry, from those who transit through certain areas of the ocean, what do you think the trust is in your process on a scale of zero to 10 right now?
