If you're asking me about “responsible”, I think we're all responsible for the fishery. That is what I'm getting at when it comes to responsible management. There's no way science should be saying one thing but fishermen are seeing the opposite. There's absolutely no way that should happen. We have to correct that if we're going to have a responsible fishery. It has to be fixed somehow. I don't know how. Don't ask me. I'm not a scientist; I'm just a fisherman, but we shouldn't be miles apart. That has to be fixed. I don't know how we do it. I know there are smarter people than me who can figure that out.
It's the same thing with herring. We're miles apart. I just don't know how you fix it.