It's not an easy question to answer, to be very honest. There's no doubt of a predator-prey relationship between redfish and shrimp. We see it in the gulf. We see it off the south coast. We fish redfish off the northeast coast as well. We see it there, where there are interactions.
As for the scale of it, we just really don't know.... We don't have the data. I don't think DFO has the data to really quantitatively identify the impact the biomass of redfish has had on shrimp. That being said, in 2019, 2020 or 2021, when we had 4.2 million tonnes, it was the predominant biomass in the gulf region. It had an impact on everything, no doubt, including shrimp, the scale of which we just don't know.