Evidence of meeting #13 for Subcommittee on Food Safety in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was public.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Kumanan Wilson  Associate Professor, University of Ottawa, Canada Research Chair in Public Health Policy, As an Individual
Amir Attaran  Professor, Institute of Population Health, University of Ottawa
Anu Bose  Head, Ottawa Office, Option consommateurs
François Décary-Gilardeau  Analyst, Agri-food, Option consommateurs
Mike Espy  Chairman, Toxin Alert Inc.
William T.  Bill) Bodenhamer (President and Chief Executive Officer, Toxin Alert Inc.

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Professor, Institute of Population Health, University of Ottawa

Dr. Amir Attaran

I'm aware that you have not used any of those powers.

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Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

You're aware that we haven't had to use any of those powers. Mr. Easter has had the ability to subpoena anybody that he has chosen, and even he has admitted that we've not had problems having witnesses come forth.

If you could answer the question, have you been employed by, or received funds from, the Liberal Party of Canada?

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Professor, Institute of Population Health, University of Ottawa

Dr. Amir Attaran

I will answer your question, but may I ask you something briefly first?

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Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

I'm sorry, I only have seven minutes.

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Professor, Institute of Population Health, University of Ottawa

Dr. Amir Attaran

Is this matter about the protection of Canadians or about a partisan attack on evidence? To ask me whether I've been employed by the Liberal Party, or the NDP, or the Bloc, or the Conservative Party--

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Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

It's just the Liberal Party I'm asking you about.

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Professor, Institute of Population Health, University of Ottawa

Dr. Amir Attaran

--is to engage in a partisan approach--

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Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

Please say yes, no, or simply refuse to answer.

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Professor, Institute of Population Health, University of Ottawa

Dr. Amir Attaran

--to what is a fundamental threat to the health of Canadians.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Mr. Attaran, please answer the question or not answer it, one or the other.

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Professor, Institute of Population Health, University of Ottawa

Dr. Amir Attaran

I have not.

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Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

Have you ever been employed by or received funds from the leader of the Liberal Party, directly or indirectly from his office?

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Professor, Institute of Population Health, University of Ottawa

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Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

Have you ever contributed money to the Liberal Party of Canada? It's published by Elections Canada.

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Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

The next time the Wheat Board is here, I guess we'll be asking that question.

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Professor, Institute of Population Health, University of Ottawa

Dr. Amir Attaran

If it is published by Elections Canada, then kindly tell me what you have found by looking it up.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Go ahead.

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Professor, Institute of Population Health, University of Ottawa

Dr. Amir Attaran

You do not need to engage—

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Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

If you don't feel comfortable answering the question, that's up to you.

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Professor, Institute of Population Health, University of Ottawa

Dr. Amir Attaran

I have never donated money to a political party, neither to the Liberals nor to the NDP. I have donated money to individual candidates. I'm not a member of either party. I would be delighted to donate money to individual candidates of the Conservative Party who demonstrated exemplary leadership. I donate to candidates or members who demonstrate exemplary leadership, irrespective of the party to which they belong.

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Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

Do you have a personal—

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Professor, Institute of Population Health, University of Ottawa

Dr. Amir Attaran

If your line of questioning is to approach my testimony in partisan terms, then you are failing to address the fact that this year, as people over summer eat ready-to-eat meats, standards are as they were last year when—

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Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

Thank you, Mr. Attaran.

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Professor, Institute of Population Health, University of Ottawa

Dr. Amir Attaran

—22 people died. That's a more serious matter—

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Conservative

Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB

I will get to the issue.