Just to clarify, we're looking at the new motion; in other words, the old motion is off the table.
I'm a bit puzzled by some of Deepak's objections, because the motion that's now on the table addresses several of those things. We don't need to be reminded that you can't introduce resolutions to the Security Council unless you're on the Security Council: this doesn't make the mistake of suggesting that's the case, it says “to press for”. In other words, it recognizes some obstacles to progress on some of these things at the African Union, for a variety of reasons, and at the Security Council. But this is about Canada trying to use what broad political space there is to exercise some responsibility to try to press for action. So I think to give us a lecture on Canada not being on the Security Council doesn't have anything to do with the motion before us.
Second, I don't personally know of victims in Canada. I do know there have been horrendous numbers of victims. Also, a number of parliamentarians, I assume several around this table, are actually twinned with Zimbabwean parliamentarians. I know the parliamentarian with whom I am twinned came to Canada as part of a Parliamentary Centre sponsored symposium on Africa in which we participated.
You can't work with victims if they don't exist, but you can work with them if they can be identified. Our first step is to make known that we favour such a process getting under way.
The third point talks about ascertaining the feasibility of using the crimes against humanity legislation. So we're not saying we ourselves have the capacity here and now, or for that matter, any authority to deem whether this could be achieved; we're saying it should be explored.
I think it really is speaking to Peter's interest, which I hope is shared by everybody, for us to at least speak out on this and urge the government get back to us with a more detailed report. If there's a big problem with certain words here, let's roll up our sleeves and those who have problems with it help suggest some small amendments. That means we don't go away for three months having done nothing before we speak out on it again.