Evidence of meeting #37 for Foreign Affairs and International Development in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was finance.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Gerald Schmitz  Committee Researcher
James Lee  Committee Researcher
Marc Toupin  Procedural Clerk

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

All right. Delete clause 10.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Okay, well, we'll do that later, yes.

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Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

Okay. Insert amendment CPC-3, not as a replacement for subclause 9(2), but as an addition.

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Liberal

Keith Martin Liberal Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca, BC

That will cover the Conservatives' concern and will fulfill the finance concerns in the bill.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Okay, well, Mr. Casey, that would take a friendly amendment to change deleting lines 29 to 31. That part of it would be changed so that Bill C-293 would be amended in clause 9 by adding, after line 32, new subclause 9(3), which would begin:

The Minister of Finance shall

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Bill Casey Conservative Cumberland—Colchester—Musquodoboit Valley, NS

But we'd keep subclause 9(2) in place as it is now.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Yes.

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Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

Subclause 9(2) stays as it is, and 9(3) is the addition of the CPC amendment.

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Liberal

Bernard Patry Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Could you show me this on paper?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Mr. Menzies.

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Conservative

Ted Menzies Conservative Macleod, AB

We're into duplication again, but at least that does make some sense. We're not duplicating ourselves. I go back to—

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

You are in some way, because the statistical report and Mr. Casey's amendment basically deal with Bretton Woods. They're still both there, but clause 10 is gone.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Menzies Conservative Macleod, AB

But what is the report from Bretton Woods if it isn't going to be statistics? What are you going to tell them?

I think we're duplicating again.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Well, maybe it would be the same.

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Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

We'll risk it.

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Conservative

Ted Menzies Conservative Macleod, AB

Are CIDA's wages ODA-able, because we're certainly going to be hiring more people to put all these reports together.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

All right.

Mr. Casey, are you willing to accept that as a friendly amendment, that it begin, “that Bill C-293 be amended in clause 9 by adding after line 32 on page 5 the following”, and then as written?

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Bill Casey Conservative Cumberland—Colchester—Musquodoboit Valley, NS

No problem.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

All right. Let me think this thing through.

Do we accept the friendly amendment?

(Amendment agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Now, on CPC-3, as amended.

(Amendment agreed to)

(Clause 9 as amended agreed to on division)

(Clause 10 negatived)

(On clause 11--Order in council)

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

We are on amendment NDP-14 on clause 11.

We'll go to Madam McDonough.

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NDP

Alexa McDonough NDP Halifax, NS

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

This proposes that clause 11 be amended by replacing the lines 11 to 13 on page 6 with the following: “This act comes into force 30 days after the day on which it receives royal assent.”

The intention of this amendment is simply to remove the open-ended option for the government with respect to bringing it into force. It would therefore obligate the government to enforce it within 30 days of receiving royal assent.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Do you have a question?

5:40 p.m.

Liberal

Bernard Patry Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Is it regular to...? With the Governor in Council, what's the difference? You don't want it to be postponed, is that all?

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

What is the regular...?

Mr. Menzies.