I just want to say that nothing of what Mr. Casey has offered is against the law, as he said. We are able to do all those things. I think we have to get back to first principles for the purpose of this bill. The purpose of this bill is to be able to define our ODA, and all the things you mentioned, all the wonderful initiatives you mentioned--debt reduction, demining, victim assistance, governance issues--could be defined as poverty reduction.
All Mr. McKay is trying to do here is give clarity to what ODA is and make sure that ODA is poverty reduction and not something else. All the things you've offered are ODA-able, and even if they were considered not ODA-able, they would still fall under the envelope of international assistance and therefore are doable and not illegal.