It's very difficult to actually give a date or a timeline arbitrarily like that, because there are a lot of variables involved, but what I can tell you is that if we are, at this point in time--and when we say “we”, we mean NATO member states--still debating as to what needs to be done. That alone tells me that it's going to be some time before we can actually invest and spend that time, instead of debating what needs to be done, implementing a more or less coherent policy.
Once we start implementing, then we'll see the results. Right now we're not in that situation. Again, I'll repeat that by 2011 I hope the ANA and the ANP can begin to increasingly take responsibility. As they stand up, we can stand down, using the words of George Bush in the case of Iraq. That's the model that I see.