I'm not sure anybody wants to give you that answer on this end.
Let me give you a personal observation, perhaps. I think Talisman as a company in Canada and worldwide today is a great example. Maybe they've learned through the school of hard knocks. I think Talisman, as the parliamentary secretary has said, is a company that is now a leader. With several other particularly petroleum-based companies, such as Nexen and others, Talisman has really gone out of its way to develop a group of companies in Canada by working with Transparency International and other groups to really address these kinds of issues, so that's been very good.
If you are asking me to be honest about whether Talisman's withdrawal has improved the situation in Sudan, I would say probably not. Talisman is a company that was on the road to making changes. Would they have done it staying in Sudan? I don't know. People here could answer that better than I.
At least it was the company we knew and the company we could talk to. Several of you talked about engagement. Do you have the same level of engagement today as you did 10 years ago, in terms of trying to promote...? I don't know; maybe others can tell whether the same schools and hospitals are still operating. Humanitarian needs were happening then.
I don't know. Maybe I'll leave it at that.