ATK, like most major corporations, has numerous divisions that generally run independent of one another. I don't know the exact organizational structure of ATK, per se. If we took that perspective on this issue, I would suggest there are numerous companies in this country that are American-owned and numerous companies in this country that are Canadian and access the American market that are engaged, one way or another, in defensive sales and development of technologies. In my view, it doesn't make any difference at all to the issue of the question of Radarsat, of the question of this technology in production being sold to ATK. It wouldn't matter if it was ATK, as far as this issue has been constructed. It's only a matter that it's U.S. ownership. That's the issue at play here.
I would remind you that our forces in Afghanistan work very closely with American forces in Afghanistan, and American forces in the United States never signed a landmine ban at all. I don't see why this is an issue. If we're going to make a case that Radarsat-2 and the technology, the intellectual property, etc., of the space system division should be in Canada on national security grounds, which means on grounds of defending the nation from threats to its national security, then that requires the potential threat and deployment of force. So you can't say that on national security grounds we're going to keep this in order not to use it for national security grounds.